Comments on: Inspirational Noahide

By: I Heart Noahides

I Heart Noahides — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:04:04 +0000

Dear Ginberg,

I agree that some people who are new to the Noahide community still resemble Messianic “Judaism” or other Christian groups. It can be very confusing, unfortunately.

You said:
“HaShem did not gave the commandments just for the Jews to keep it for themselves at home.”

Actually, that is what the Almighty did. The Torah is given to the Jews. And we are to live the Torah in our home - in our land, and in our houses.

Anyone on the planet can join the Jewish people if they wish to observe all of the commandments as Jews observe them.

But no one HAS to be Jewish. There is the path of the Noahide. And according to G-d’s Torah, that path is perfectly good and enough for any Gentile who wishes to follow the Will of the Almighty.

Morality, behavior, character development - all of these things can be learned and copied from the Jews. But wearing tzitzit and observing the Shabbos in the manner that Jews do is not the path of the Noahide.

Just as a Jew should not call himself a Jew and then live like a Gentile, so too a Gentile should not call himself a Noahide and then live as a Jew.

Thank you for your thoughts and comments.

By: ginberg

ginberg — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:45:10 +0000

“Noahides do not need prayer books to pray! The tradition of Noah is to pray from the heart, in words from your heart. Jews only”
Are the above statement come from “Thus saidth HaShem?
If really Noachides do not need prayer books to pray and only need to pray from the heart…..this kind of man-created commandments are exactly like the christian claimed.
Does Noachides need no commandments from HaShem? And HaShem will put His commandments on the hearts of Noachides? If this is true, then what make Noachides theology different from the christian theology that also claimed they don need Jewish prayer books, they don need Jewish G-d commandments……Because they have Jesus. Then is there a “Noachide Jesus” that do away with these Jewishness and become more “gentileness”?
When HaShem has chosen Jews to be His witnesses it mean the Jews are to be a model role of what HaShem has commanded the Jews to learn and obserev and do has to be eventually be a model for the non-Jews to emulate. HaShem did not gave the commandments just for the Jews to keep it for themselves at home.
It is sad that people still listen to man.
The christian listen to man-made commandments.
The Noachides listens to man-made commandments.

A true lesson to learn from : Read 1st Kings chapter 13…….Do you listen to HaShem or do you listen to man?
Noachidism is no different form Christianity and Messianic Judaism. A skin hidden in the Jewish sheep’s outer skin.
Noachidism seem Jewishness and yet very gentileness like Christianity and Messianic Judaism.

By: Francis Koh

Francis Koh — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:23:01 +0000

Yours truly happened to be one of those who contributed materials to the OKBN prayer book. I think what the person was trying to say is, “Is there a common prayer offered by all Noahides for all Noahides?”

And although personal free prayer has its immense benefits, a prayer book is a good source of offering petitions as poetic as possible to uplift and refine the soul.